Fall Ter is starting to wrap up and Steve and Laura give their reports from Philly and Albany. Turns out the nitrous tanks were in full effect in Philly…who would have thought? Laura was offered a free lap dance from a wookette and Steve was offered a free h3tty crystal, sounds like the wook community is already in the Christmas spirit.
There’s always been good people in the “hippie scene”. Always been shady folks too. We talk about how the scene is changing both the good and the bad. TWoL also had a bad incident hit close to home when our buddy (Parker) got ripped off (at this point) by a person involved with Phishtube. If you know anyone involved or what my have happened, pleas let us know. (more details in the podacast)
Phish is all about change. Changing every show to make it different, changing the way a song is jammed, changing the set list from night to night, Page changing new shirts. Fans are starting to change too. Tapers have always been the backbone of how most people find out about Phish and are able to listen to so many shows for free. With the digital age we live in the taping seems to be evolving into other forms of free live Phish. People are now streaming shows through their phones and making them available to anyone with an internet connection. We talk about how this is good and potentially bad for the scene and what if anything Phish will do about this.
We’re on the verge of the MSG shows and Steve gives some sound advice on what not to bring to the shows. Turns out the advice might fall into the everyday advice category too. We would also like to give a shout out to Chris M the winner of our MSG ticket giveaway. He will be joining us next week with a report of his experiences at the show. Congrats again Chris!
As always we read some of your emails and listen to some voicemails. One fan gives a heads up on who to look out for if you plan on selling lot shirts with a Phish logo, better watch out too looks like it’s mighty expensive to own the license to do so.
We’ve also got a survey for you this week. Let us know your plans for New Years Eve.
rhanks Nick, Laura & Steve.
I’ll update if there are any developments. Thus far: Zero.
I’ll weigh in on the streamer/taper money thing.
As a long time taper, it was always about the thrill of the show and getting the crystal clear, kick-ass recording. The expense of equipment, tapes, batteries, tickets, travel, etc was not minimal. Periodically, someone would wander into the taper section with a beer or other ‘donation’. I always enjoyed the dudes that were prepared with a SASE with blanks and a sincere thank-you. Again, sometimes people would throw in a couple of extra blanks for the effort. This is all anyone ever expected or even asked for.
As far as the ‘ghetto’ tapers asking for money? Ridiculous. If you can’t afford the ticket and your phone bill, don’t go to the shows and don’t ask me to contribute.
I can quite guarantee that if this practice continues, Shapiro will clamp down on it. He is aware of it right now and thinks it kind of humorous. BUT: once the quality increases and money is changing hands: not so funny anymore.
Charging for the stream: Wook Move
Not paying for a hotel room: Wook Move
Three Night Run at MSG: Priceless
Ok, do you guys have anything better to talk about then trashing the city of Philadelphia? Phish threw the fuck down at Wachovia on Tuesday night. Trey raged the Flyers jersey. The crowd energy was amazing. Were you even paying attention to the show or just worrying about the nitrous dealers? Yes, they come to the parking lots. This is common knowledge and should not be a shock to anyone. Nick, you live 2000 miles from Philly, but you’re an expert on their nitrous laws? Amazing. BTW I saw maybe 2 flatbrims during the whole Philly run. They tend to stick to Bisco shows. And I think I’ve seen maybe 1 nitrous tank over the course of many many Eagles games I’ve been to over the past 10 years, so you obviously don’t know wtf you’re talking about.
And why the hell were you going to Wegman’s for a hoagie? At least go to Wawa or Primo next time. Noobs!!!
Hey, thanks for listening and the comment. FTR, I had an awesome show in philly. Night 1 was my 100th show and it rocked. But we are trying to keep this podcast about the scene, and the stories we told were true. Not really trying to give show reviews. There are plenty of blogs that do that. And personally, I love philly and have lots of friends there and visit often. Just wanted to clear the air.
-Steve
Thank you for listening and thank you for taking the time to leave a comment. We aren’t trying to “hate” on Philly we’re just commenting on what Steve and Laura witnessed. If this show had been in Omaha we would have done the same thing. Like Steve said the podcast is more about the scene we aren’t really trying to give show reviews. As far as nitrous laws in Philly (or any city) I definitely don’t claim to be an expert, just repeating what I’ve heard from friends in Philly that have gone to shows and Eagles games. Thanks again for listening and for providing honest feedback.
We got Parker’s back. If phishtube is streaming tonight, light his ass up. If he’s following you on twitter DM incessantly. Let him know he’s a dick and a week is too long to be incommunicado. If you’re on hoodstream and it’s playing tell the people in the chat.
That’s all that needs to be said there.
As far as Steve saying that he didn’t want to be rude to the h33ty crystal dude, fuck that. You guys saw how that wook attacked me when I gave him a free laser copy sticker. I have a no contact rule. I don’t want hugs, hugs are not a valid form of currency between strangers. And not all wooks are shady, but in this case one bad apple ruins the barrel. I may start wearing surgical gloves at shows just to feel safe from these shady bastards. The purple ones may actually look trendy.
Now if you don’t mind I’m gonna go take my anxiety meds. Skin crawling just thinking about wook hugs.
Hola, another fantastic podcast–I will be using the term “wookette nitrous lap dance” for the rest of my life!
The only better phrase I have is from a w00k at Santa Monica show who was trying to talk his brother-bros into giving him a ride to Malibu after the show. He was talking about all the great girls that were going to be there, and the awesome beach scene that awaited them, and then he threw in the kicker–a “champagne ecstasy fountain”. Now I do not know if there has ever actually been a Champagne Ecstasy Fountain created in the land of w00k, but the Group Hoot that erupted at the mere mention of such a thing will haunt me for the rest of my life.
On the topic of the show, one of the pieces of advice I received early on was “if you do not have a ticket, don’t go”. This was a fairly simple tool that always reminded me it is about the music. Lot is not a vending scene, profit can be a by product of preparation, but it should not be the point, right? Scalpers do not help the scene. Nitrous tanks everywhere do not help the scene.
The Lot is about getting organized for the music–if this means hooking up with a sister-bra, scoring a h3tty crystal, playing some hacky sack, slapping the bag, whatever–that is fine. Thanks, David S
I enjoyed your podcast. The story about the guy in the NYPD hat reminded me of when I met my friend Billy. Phish lot, Irvine, fall 2000. He was the only person with short hair, at least 35, wearing ice washed blue jeans and unscuffed white sneakers. His shirt said, “UNDERCOVER COP.” It took me a minute, but after that it was pretty awesome watching him interact with everyone and watching people like actually running away from him as he came near. People didn’t really know what to do.
Finally got around to this one. I really believe that this particular wook actually did pee off the balcony. I left that message the next morning. I was barely awake, but wanted to leave the message before I hit the road back to CT to pick up the wife.
I don’t know if you guys cut off the rest of my message or if I just imagined leaving more of one. The nitrous scene after Albany night 2 was pretty crazy. They were everywhere right out in the open. I even walked by this dude in a suit who I don’t think was at the Phish show, but rather at some classy event at a bar, sucking on a balloon. And the walk back with TJ was down a balloon covered path.
One question on the nitrous, is there a difference between ice cold nitrous and regular nitrous? The dudes with the tanks were all yelling “Ice Cold!”.
same thing…. “ice cold phatties” is just marketing speak. It’s all ice cold. In fact, super cold. If you suck directly off the tank, there is a good chance you will die. Or so I’ve been warned.